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If you want to see two buddies fight worse than Donald and Elon

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because they're always trying to trump each other,

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but you know, they definitely love each other's musk.

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Then go to YouTube and search out at any FG pod.

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Hit that like and subscribe button.

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I'm rock and I'm Archie.

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Well, our opinions, they might not matter to some, but What are you doing in there?

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It's a podcast.

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Immature, crass, trashy.

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And those are their good qualities.

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These poor schmucks are a couple of IQ points away from eating paste.

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But when it comes to music, sports and comedy, well, that's all they know.

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You're listening to not these two fucking guys.

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Not these two fucking guys.

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Podcast.

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Did you see, Chef and Burrell died?

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I'm so devastated.

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Yeah. 55 years old with the. With the blond hair.

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Yeah, like the devil.

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You don't know if she went left or right.

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Yeah.

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She was married. Husband.

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Really? Yeah.

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Well, I liked her.

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She was on,

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my wife watch the show that I got into. She.

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It was her and another chef.

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And they would take worst cooks in America.

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Yeah, yeah, it's just a result, right? Yeah.

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Oh. Oh. Up.

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I had I had a fucking bullet in the chamber.

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And I'm like, you want to know what?

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We don't pull these on the podcast.

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Well.

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Well, I say nothing.

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Same for a later date, I was saving for a later date.

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When I want to be funny.

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I'll tell you then.

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Did she really die?

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Yeah, 55 years old.

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How did she die today?

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Well, yeah.

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She was like, why do we know?

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No. Didn't say they found an unresponsive in her apartment.

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I looked on TMZ.

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It's what it said.

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I was a big fan of her.

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She had her own, like, cooking show, like, back in the day, like,

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maybe like late 20 tens.

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I know she was like, a sous chef for, like, Mario

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Batali when he would go on, like, what's it called?

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Iron Chef America?

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You just said she hosted, Worst Cooks in America.

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Yeah, that's really good, chef.

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I like all the stuff that she made.

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Sad. Rest in peace to Chef and Burrell.

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I can't believe one thing.

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What? That's not butter.

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How are you going to say I went to the fights?

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I sat next to Matt as we just previously interviewed

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or about to interview.

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Depends if this is, you guys are hearing this before the, interview?

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Depends on how you edit this down.

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How are you not going to mention to the crowd,

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to the people that listen to us, that you got to say hello to?

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Are you sure? Fear.

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That's right.

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Yeah, I did, I met him at, the bar right outside next door.

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Shout out to American whiskey.

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Walk me through it.

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Walk, walk, walk the people.

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Walk the listeners through it.

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So after the after,

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he walked by, said Ray, what's up, big fan?

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How are you?

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Want to come on?

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Actually podcast game of business card.

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Nice guy. I took a picture with him.

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He's wearing a cool Richard Pryor shirt, actually,

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he, Yeah, he's hilarious.

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Really funny.

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Apparently a fight fan, too.

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Did, did you get to speak with him for a minute or.

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It was more of just like,

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he was he was.

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Yeah, he was.

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I was crawling.

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Yeah, he was, he was he was leaving.

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He was leaving the bar.

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Okay. And,

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I stopped him for a quick pic.

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Not a dick pic, a quick pic, was it?

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Just curious, was anybody, like, around him

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meaning, like, was anybody doing the same? Yeah, same.

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He not that.

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I mean, at that point,

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drinks were flowing, so I don't know.

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Me too. 20 people to come out to. I have no idea.

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Okay. Funny dude. That's cool though.

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That's real cool.

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I mean, he has a he has a great podcast, too, if you listen to it.

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Yeah. We'd be tripping. We'd be tripping.

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Kayla Harrison won the women's

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145 title from, Julianna Penn.

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Yeah.

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Did you think that was going to happen?

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Yes, I did, that's Julianna.

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Julianna is a really good fighter.

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Obviously, she was the champ.

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But Kill Harrison.

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Just her judo and her takedowns and her pressure.

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And while up submitting her.

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So her arms are seven times a size bigger than yours.

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Okay, I get it.

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I mean, you think so? I mean, do you think.

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Do you think so

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about this.

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That one now? Yeah.

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Let's go.

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You don't want.

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You don't want this smug arch.

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You want to know what? Your arms are perfect.

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Here.

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We got perfect for pipe cleaners, just in case.

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If a ball fell in the sewer and somebody had to reach down

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and grab the ball, that's what your arms would be good for it.

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Sorry.

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They're fucking Hulk Hogan.

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My bad.

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Area.

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Oh, yeah.

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Here he is, folks.

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In better arms on chairs.

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Die

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Yo, Rock.

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What's up?

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Today's guest doesn't just throw punches.

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He detonates.

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He has dynamite in his hands.

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And when they connect, it's not just a hit.

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It's an exploding f bomb.

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But don't get it twisted.

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He's got the full Emma arsenal.

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Chris wrestling sharp jiu jitsu in weapons grade levels of cardio.

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Reppin Long Island as a strong island with that trademark.

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Never say die hard.

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He's one of our favorite fighters to watch, and his nickname says it all.

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Please welcome to Not These Two Fucking Guys podcast,

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Matt the steamroller traveler.

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Hey. What's up?

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How's it up? That was awesome.

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That was the first time I ever heard Archie not stutter.

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That was good. I'm proud of you.

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The speech classes are. Fucking pay it off.

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I'm drinking water. There we go.

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Hydrate. Hydration. Rule number one.

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That's it.

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I'm. I'm in training. Matt.

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There you go. That sounded great.

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I don't know what I'm training for, but what I'm. I'm a training. Matt.

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So, Matt, thank you so much for coming on.

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I got, you know, the pleasure of getting to sit by at the last UFC.

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Two weeks ago in Newark.

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Your teammate, Rob Fort.

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Very cool.

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You know, it was a cool interaction.

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You and some guys on your team.

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You know, the fan interaction, seeing you, you know,

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you know, talk to the fans, take pictures is very, very cool.

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You've always been a fan favorite.

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I know that that particular building was a very special day for you.

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A couple of years before.

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You were the first guy to knock out judo over there.

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You know, and it was a it was a it was a fun night.

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And we've had many fighters on here, but it was the first time

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I actually experienced, like, sitting, watching live fights with the fighter,

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like hearing your comments and what, you know, what you guys were chatting about.

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So, how was it like.

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I mean, first and foremost, obviously.

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Borat's performance.

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Yeah, man.

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That it was a fun night.

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You got to love, how the UFC is always going to Prudential Center now.

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Yeah. Like, every day.

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They're always coming out at the big Pay-Per-View there.

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And, Dude, Merab is unreal.

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I mean, his he's he's the best fighter in the world.

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Like, just just he's so unpredictable

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with his feints, with his movement, with his level changes.

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And then which impressed everybody.

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His striking.

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He out struck O'Malley.

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Yeah.

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You know, he was landing.

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He landed a nice left hook and like.

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And then.

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And then I was I was so happy to see the finish because that was

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the only thing Rob's was missing is the finish.

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And and he got it. Beautiful ninja choke.

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And, and now he's just just living life in Georgia right now.

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But no.

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Now, now he was in Georgia for a week, like just doing his victory tour.

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Now he's in, Azerbaijan to corner NAS.

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He's the man.

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So, I

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literally didn't know how to pronounce the the country.

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Azerbaijan.

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And that's that's where your teammate NAS is from.

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And he's he's fighting this Saturday.

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Yup. UFC Baku and that's that's his home country, obviously.

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That's got to be a huge thrill for him.

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Man it's huge.

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His father is like, straight from there, and,

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Nah, NAS grew up in, Brooklyn and, I've been training with him

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for probably the past, like seven years now.

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And, and, you know, before he was in the UFC and,

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and he's, he's always been so talented and

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and then I remember he got his Contender Series fight,

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and I was like helping him get ready for that Contender Series fight.

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And, we'd always, you know,

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joke around like, yeah, you're going to bring the UFC to a budget.

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And he would say, like, yeah, UFC Baku is coming.

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Like even before he was in the UFC.

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And now to see it, you know, actually happening.

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I couldn't be like happy for him.

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Very cool, very cool.

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You talked about, his dad.

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His dad was was with him, right?

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Yep. That's right.

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As was your dad, who I want to talk about.

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I got to meet him. He's a character.

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The bulldozer. Right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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The bulldozer like to, bulldozer.

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Yeah. You guys have some fun at the fights?

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Yeah.

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He, So I was, I seen, you know, first off, happy belated Father's Day.

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Yeah. Archie and I are both fathers, so we know.

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We know that. Feel happy. Father's Day, guys.

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Thank you. Brother.

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I see you hitting mitts with your dad on Father's Day.

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I was. That's selectivity.

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Yeah, man.

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Yeah, my my dad always likes to mess around.

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He's he's got a furious, 15 seconds.

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There you go.

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That's that's funny.

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Rocky does have the same thing.

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He's he's got the same 15 minutes.

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I'm sorry to hear that.

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So I real quick, I wanted to I saw I saw an Instagram.

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I saw you and your father like fucking like he's he's into it, right?

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He's he's he comes to all your fights.

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Oh, yeah.

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He's he's been coming.

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Coming. All the fights of the amateur days.

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He loves it.

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But he's he's always, you know, grown up playing

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football, wrestling, playing lacrosse.

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Baseball. He was.

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I got a twin brother as well. So.

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So, he was my dad was always at all all the sporting events,

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it was enjoying it just as much as we were.

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Oh, that's that that's cool that you get to share it with him.

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You know, that. He gets to see his sons play.

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Well, get to see you. You know, fight them, man.

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We've we've had, we've had quite the journey.

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When I was an amateur, I got to fight in Costa Rica,

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for, for like, that the Costa Rican title down there.

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And I remember when I, when I got that fight, my dad came,

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like a couple of my uncles came, a bunch of my cousins came, was like.

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It was like a family reunion in Costa Rica.

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Was beat up some hometown guy.

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So very cool.

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So I'm glad you got like that.

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That because, like, some families could be a little standoffish, you know, like,

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I don't want to see my son get hurt, you know, like that type of thing.

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Oh, yeah.

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That's awesome that you got that love.

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And, that I actually know three guys at my gym

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that, their kids and they're they're amateur fighters, and they don't.

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They hide that they do this to their parents.

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And and it's just a coincidence that they're all Asian to really.

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Yeah.

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I don't know, man. Archie.

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Archie used to hide what he did.

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His parents, but completely different.

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It's like, you can't talk about that on the air.

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No. Do you imagine these kids, though?

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They're like.

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They have to, like, just keep coming up with excuses.

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Yeah, I always, I always tell them, like, keep in my head.

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Do you tell your parents? Yeah. And,

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they haven't told them yet and like, oh out there, they're good.

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You know, two of them

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are going to going to go pro eventually and then they're going to wow I think

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I think they're waiting to like, you know, till they're good enough and they go pro

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and then they could be like see, you know like I'm good.

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And he's that very, very cool.

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How has becoming a father changed you?

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If at all, in your perspective in fighting in life?

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Yeah.

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You know, it's definitely it's made me a better person, a better man.

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You know, I, I appreciate all the time that I have

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now for, you know, like, and, and.

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Yeah, you know, it's just, it's just made me a better man.

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It's really, you know, I'm, I'm taking care of him.

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I'm getting my training in, You know, my

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my wife goes to the city, three days a week.

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So those three days, it's he's coming.

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He's coming with me, and, Oh. Wow. Yes.

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I bring him to the gym, and I kind of just teach privates with.

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With my little guy and his little baby.

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Octagon, and, That's fantastic.

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Yeah. And it's I love it.

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You know, I love it. Now, I'm kind of.

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I'm really, you know, planning my life around, you know, being around him.

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You know what? And it's it's awesome.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I tell you what.

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Who knows

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if anything ever does happen, but, like, I mean, he's he's seeing it from.

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Infancy.

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What does he want?

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He's he's he's going to turn one and, two weeks.

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So I mean, he's

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that's home grown right there man.

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Yeah, man.

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He's he's he's he's going to be an athlete.

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He's going to he's going to play play all sports.

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And hopefully, hopefully he's good at real sports.

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Yeah.

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And he'll, he'll he'll play for the Mets.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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So you're I see that you're a big Mets fan.

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And you actually got to throw the first pitch out here.

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Talk about that.

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That's is that is that more nerve wracking than going into a fight?

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Yeah, I was pretty nervous where I was,

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but it's, unreal.

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You played a lot of sports in high school.

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Like, did you play?

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Did you play baseball?

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I did, I played baseball all growing up.

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From, like, T-ball all the way up until eighth grade.

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Then when I, when I got went into high school,

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I like to hit people that I was bored of baseball.

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And I just started playing lacrosse. Got it.

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But you were the.

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You have that athleticism that you could throw a baseball.

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Like some people look fucking awkward, you know, trying to throw a baseball.

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No, I made it look good.

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And I had the high leg kick lined up.

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But I, I like and I threw heat, but every like,

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it's been a while since I really threw from a mound and,

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and everyone was like, oh, you know, throw it, throw it higher than you think.

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It's farther than you think.

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Everybody just told me that. Yeah.

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And then I go in there and like I do my high, my high leg kick

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warm, wind up, and I just throw some heat and I throw it

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high and I had my my dad was there and my dad was the catcher.

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And then.

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And then my brother was behind him as the ump, and my dad saved me.

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Like, he went up.

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He, like, stood up, went up and made the catch.

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Because if I would have thrown it and what?

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It hit the backstop, I would have never lived down.

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The, my dad went up, made the catch.

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My brother called it a strike. And,

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it was Reagan.

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Yeah, it was the memory that will always have.

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You know, that's fucking cool.

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I mean, yeah, did you see the 50 cent throw out the first pitch?

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You know, like fucking like that's brutal.

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That's just fucking brutal.

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Yeah.

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Then I saw, McGregor throw out the first pitch to like, threw like, sideways.

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Yeah.

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So you grew up a Mets fan?

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Obviously.

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Like, through the Piazza era, I'm assuming.

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Yeah.

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David Wright, Jose Reyes,

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that those were good Mets.

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Archie and I are Yankees fans.

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And right now, as of this recording, the Yankees have not scored a run

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in 27 fucking innings.

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And so the Mets,

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I think the Mets own the town this year, unfortunately for us.

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But good for me.

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You know, you got you guys beat us in that, the first series.

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Yeah.

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My my wife's the Yankees fan, so I, I, I get it.

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We got it.

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We got to see what your son's going to do.

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Now. What side is going to back?

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He's going to be a Mets fan.

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He's going to be a medicine.

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He went to Opening Day this year.

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So, you know, nice nice.

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So I saw I don't know this is still your same arrangement, but,

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the frivolity compound.

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Yeah.

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Pop pop.

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Duke's got his bachelor pad.

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You said underneath in the basement.

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Yep, yep, that's pretty wild to describe to the people.

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It's like his bachelor pad.

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And then there's, like, a gym I saw.

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Yeah, yeah, it's, this house has been

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in my family's generation for for five generations. Wow.

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It was like a summer house back in the day.

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And now it's just a big family house.

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It's right on the water.

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The north shore of Long Island.

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And, now it's like me, my wife and my kid,

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one half my brother and his wife on the other half.

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We got a nice apartment, downstairs.

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My dad's in, and we got another apartment that, we rent out to one of my buddies.

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So it's. And it's like, right on the water.

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The the front yard.

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The front yard is, the beach.

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I got a nice bag set up, a nice lawn up.

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There's, I love, like, crushing workouts at the house in the summer nights.

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It's getting so nice. Now, too, it's.

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I got I got the kayaks, we got the boats.

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It's definitely, it's, So a great summer.

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Summer house. We're blessed.

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That's a that's a that's a nice life right there.

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That's a cool setup.

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Yeah, man.

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I just gotta make enough money to pay these taxes, and we'll be all right.

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You got it. You got to.

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You got to sell this as a reality show.

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Yeah. Downstairs. Your twin brother. Next.

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Come on, man, that's right there.

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That's that's that's how you pay the house.

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I mean, let's be honest, it sounds like a big fucking house.

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Yeah, yeah, it's definitely a big house.

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Yeah.

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Holy shit.

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That's cool. That's been in the family that long, man.

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So you want, you want to keep it for years and years to come, you know, like.

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Yeah, you know, your son's going to have a family there.

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Hopefully one day.

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Yeah, that's that's the that's the plan.

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Yeah. That's the,

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So I hear that you're a fan.

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Is that true?

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Yeah.

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You know, I like I grew up in, like, the,

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the, the WWF days, you know, the rock, stone cold.

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Yeah, the big show, the mankind, the rock and sock connection.

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Nice.

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I definitely I was definitely like, like a fan more back then, but I still,

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I still watch, you know, I, I do, I do, I, I'm, you know, into it.

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Yeah.

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I got, yeah, I just saw it on Netflix

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that like, you know, like sitcoms would come up.

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The big show had a TV show years ago.

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That it. Yeah.

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Did you see that? Oh, no. No. Never see.

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I mean, he's definitely you see the the Vince McMahon thing documentary that.

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Okay. Is he in jail? Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. No.

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Unbelievably. No, no, I don't know.

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That's insane.

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And I, I think that's like, you have enough money.

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Like you make your problems go away.

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I don't know if if, if you want to see like a really cool insight about this,

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about the business.

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Triple H was on, do you know who, Andrew Schultz's.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, he was on his podcast, fragrant, flagrant.

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You can say, fuck yourself.

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Flagrant.

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And, triple H was on there and he actually gave like really

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because like, nowadays, like they're starting to let.

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Yeah. Like obviously the cats out of the bag.

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Right. Like whatever.

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Like it it's scripted or however you want to call it.

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But he really gave a good feel for the business.

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You know, it's I mean it's huge.

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You know, I got, there's the fighter, my gym actually, put me in a Cuda

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and he's, undefeated pro, nine and zero flyweight.

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And, he's actually fighting.

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Fighting, I think this weekend or next weekend for LFA.

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He should be in the UFC.

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He's he'll be a world champ.

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But, for some reason, the UFC just hasn't signed them.

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They're really kind of screwed.

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And, he actually branched off into, professional wrestling.

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Wow. And and, yeah, he's doing professional wrestling and.

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Well, and he's still training and fighting and I went I went to one of, like,

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the low level, I think it was called like,

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like House of glory, pro wrestling.

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And I went, watch me.

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He wrestled against Matt Riddle.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah, yeah, it was, it was it was actually super fun.

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It was a fun event.

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And to kind of, you know, see that that that world.

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Yeah.

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Man, I was kids growing up.

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Just fucking.

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I mean, a little older than you are, but, as far as,

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you know, Hogan, in the warrior, like, ultimate Warrior was the fucking man.

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Like, just watching him come down the fucking with, like,

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a steroid fucking head banger from the 80s with that hair and just, like that.

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Like I love the wrestling back of the of the the walkouts for the best.

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I had the WWF soundtrack and we just saw do the the walkout,

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walkout or walkouts downstairs and to to the basement and then powerbomb

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your friend and like the the couch the the funny thing as a kid

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I didn't realize this, but now that I see clips on social media

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about Macho Man, like Macho Man's like his interviews

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like just off the fucking wall.

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Yeah, because as a kid, you know, as a kid, we didn't know

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they were on, like, like Coke and like, I didn't know what steroids, whatever.

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They were like, literally like like time bombs about to explode.

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We didn't know that.

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You watch it now, you're like, oh, Jesus Christ, my parents let me watch this shit.

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Yeah, I know, I know, it's insane.

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So talk about what's next for you.

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What are you up to as a fighter?

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You know, I'm.

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I'm in the gym every day. Twice a day.

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Either either training, you know, myself or I'm.

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I'm coaching a lot right now.

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But I'm starting to find that balance

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between, coaching and training and,

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because I know, I know, if I camp's going to be starting pretty soon.

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I'm. I'm shooting for the end of the year.

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You know, I know UFC always goes back to, Madison Square Garden in November.

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First weekend in November.

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So I got that start and, I'm going to try to push to,

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make my return at the garden.

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Right. Okay.

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Nice.

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Now, how does that, how does that work?

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Do you reach out to them like, early on? Ali.

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Hey, listen, keep me in.

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You know, that's like my home, you know, home area.

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Yeah.

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I tell my manager, I tell him, tell the UFC,

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that'll be fight ready in September, but, I want, msg in November.

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That's that's my manager's bitch ass job.

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And if you had your pick,

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anybody in the top 15 that that you would be looking at,

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you know,

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really?

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I'll fight anybody at the garden.

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I want the biggest fight, the highest ranked, the biggest name.

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That's always kind of how it's been.

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I always want the biggest fight possible out there.

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Because everybody's good, you know?

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Everybody's good.

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So why not?

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You know, fight the guy that, people think is the toughest.

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But, I don't, I don't know, think about a name.

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I don't know yet, but we'll get there.

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Right on.

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How's it look like throughout the years?

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Like how how many, how many, how many fights per year?

00:25:32:09 - 00:25:34:07
Like how many fights do you want to have per year?

00:25:34:07 - 00:25:36:07
Like what?

00:25:36:07 - 00:25:39:07
You you always kind of shoot for three fights a year.

00:25:39:12 - 00:25:39:21
Okay.

00:25:39:21 - 00:25:43:21
But, you know, when I was an amateur, I would fight like four times a year,

00:25:44:08 - 00:25:45:10
like five times a year.

00:25:45:10 - 00:25:49:17
And then beginning of my pro career, I would try to fight, like,

00:25:49:18 - 00:25:51:20
you know, as much as possible.

00:25:51:20 - 00:25:57:00
But, when I was in the UFC, I was averaging, like,

00:25:57:03 - 00:25:58:09
I feel like my best run.

00:25:58:09 - 00:26:00:18
I was like two fights a year was good for me.

00:26:00:18 - 00:26:02:05
But everybody's different.

00:26:02:05 - 00:26:02:11
Yeah.

00:26:02:11 - 00:26:06:11
You know, I always, I always like to fight, you know?

00:26:06:11 - 00:26:09:21
And that may or May at the Prudential Center

00:26:09:21 - 00:26:12:04
and then November at MSG.

00:26:12:04 - 00:26:16:00
That schedule is, is on point for me because I love fighting.

00:26:16:00 - 00:26:19:00
And at that MSG card in November,

00:26:19:02 - 00:26:21:24
because it's right before Thanksgiving and Christmas.

00:26:21:24 - 00:26:24:21
So you got a big win in the beginning of November.

00:26:24:21 - 00:26:28:06
You can enjoy Thanksgiving, enjoy Christmas, New Year's,

00:26:28:06 - 00:26:30:01
and get back into camp.

00:26:30:01 - 00:26:33:09
And then I always like fighting in May, right before summer kicks off,

00:26:33:10 - 00:26:37:01
you get that big win jet stay jacked and tan all summer.

00:26:37:13 - 00:26:42:13
Yeah, I had to go go back to the beach in Long Island.

00:26:42:18 - 00:26:45:22
Yeah, cause they can't be that good.

00:26:45:22 - 00:26:48:06
It's a great mindset. I like it.

00:26:48:06 - 00:26:49:24
Yeah.

00:26:49:24 - 00:26:54:16
Like like we said in the intro, I mean, you're like a huge fan favorite.

00:26:54:16 - 00:26:57:09
And to me is because you're fighting style, like,

00:26:57:09 - 00:26:59:16
you'll you'll fight anywhere the fight goes.

00:26:59:16 - 00:27:02:16
You know, you,

00:27:02:21 - 00:27:06:10
you move forward, you know, your cardio is sick.

00:27:08:08 - 00:27:11:08
What do you think your single greatest,

00:27:12:04 - 00:27:15:04
attribute is?

00:27:16:01 - 00:27:19:15
You know, I started as a grappler.

00:27:20:03 - 00:27:23:17
Then, you know, I fell in love with my time then.

00:27:24:04 - 00:27:27:21
And then fell in love with boxing and striking and knocking people out.

00:27:28:06 - 00:27:33:03
But I think my best attribute

00:27:33:03 - 00:27:37:13
is just my my fight, my my instincts.

00:27:37:13 - 00:27:41:04
You know, the the way that I use

00:27:41:17 - 00:27:46:11
I call the martial arts my wrestling match jujitsu, my, my Muay Thai,

00:27:46:12 - 00:27:49:12
my boxing, how I use that and mix it,

00:27:50:05 - 00:27:53:10
to, to use it in the, in the octagon.

00:27:53:20 - 00:27:58:07
And I think that just comes, you know, naturally the,

00:27:58:10 - 00:28:02:08
you know, the way I fight naturally I, I've always been a competitor, a scrapper.

00:28:02:21 - 00:28:05:12
But now you know

00:28:05:12 - 00:28:08:12
that I'm like, trained in these and these martial arts

00:28:08:12 - 00:28:12:11
and these disciplines, the way, the the way that you use them,

00:28:12:16 - 00:28:17:11
you know, in a fight in the Octagon, you know, it needs to be natural.

00:28:17:11 - 00:28:22:15
It needs, you know, just feel right, I guess.

00:28:22:15 - 00:28:26:12
And I think, I guess that's the that I answer your question.

00:28:26:18 - 00:28:27:03
Yeah.

00:28:27:03 - 00:28:28:07
No, 100%.

00:28:28:07 - 00:28:33:08
And how far into your career since amateurs on up.

00:28:33:08 - 00:28:35:19
Like, when did you feel like.

00:28:35:19 - 00:28:36:13
Wow, I'm starting to.

00:28:36:13 - 00:28:39:14
I can put it all together now rather than like, you know, okay,

00:28:39:15 - 00:28:41:23
the fights here and then like the the transition.

00:28:41:23 - 00:28:44:13
Okay. Now the fights here, but now you're putting it all together.

00:28:44:13 - 00:28:47:05
When was the first time you felt like, oh, you know what?

00:28:47:05 - 00:28:47:21
This feels good.

00:28:49:06 - 00:28:51:18
Honestly, my first fight,

00:28:51:18 - 00:28:54:18
it came naturally, naturally to me.

00:28:55:00 - 00:28:58:00
I'm in there and I'm fighting, you know, it's

00:28:58:04 - 00:29:00:22
I, I you know, I know how to throw punches.

00:29:00:22 - 00:29:01:22
I know how to wrestle.

00:29:01:22 - 00:29:04:11
I know how to do jiu jitsu.

00:29:04:11 - 00:29:07:11
And and when you're in there, all eyes on you,

00:29:07:19 - 00:29:11:11
you got an opponent standing in front of you trying to trying to hurt you.

00:29:11:19 - 00:29:17:13
You rely on those instincts, and, and I did I had I had that,

00:29:17:14 - 00:29:20:21
you know, right off the bat, just being able to,

00:29:21:24 - 00:29:25:00
to, to trust my training and and fight.

00:29:25:00 - 00:29:29:21
But but, I mean, I'm still I'm and I'm also still working on it, you know, it's

00:29:29:21 - 00:29:33:06
so, like, it comes, comes naturally

00:29:33:06 - 00:29:36:06
to, naturally for me to go in there and fight.

00:29:36:07 - 00:29:41:14
But now, you know, since since I got in the UFC, I'm really trying

00:29:41:14 - 00:29:45:22
to be more, more tactical, you know, use the game plan.

00:29:45:23 - 00:29:49:04
You know, before I was in the UFC, I never had a game plan.

00:29:49:04 - 00:29:52:04
My game plan was to go in there and steamroll.

00:29:52:04 - 00:29:57:03
But now, you know, once now that I'm in the UFC, everybody's is good.

00:29:57:14 - 00:30:00:19
So now I got to, you know, have a game plan.

00:30:01:05 - 00:30:03:12
You know, look at his weaknesses.

00:30:03:12 - 00:30:07:03
You know, see where where I want where I'll be

00:30:07:06 - 00:30:10:22
have the highest, you know chance to win.

00:30:10:23 - 00:30:14:19
You know finish them and but even

00:30:14:19 - 00:30:18:02
even that, you know, that doesn't always, always work out.

00:30:18:03 - 00:30:20:10
You know, you get punched in the face sometimes, you know,

00:30:20:10 - 00:30:25:06
you forget about the wrestling, but, that's that's like, you know, it's a work

00:30:25:06 - 00:30:29:20
in progress and every, every fight, you just you just try to evolve from that

00:30:31:01 - 00:30:34:01
and then find that flow state.

00:30:34:11 - 00:30:38:17
Obviously you come from, an amazing team, Sarah Longo.

00:30:38:18 - 00:30:42:21
World champions, Chris Weidman, Merab

00:30:42:21 - 00:30:47:03
Algeo Alex Winter was out of there right now.

00:30:47:03 - 00:30:50:03
You have NAS

00:30:50:11 - 00:30:51:15
what?

00:30:51:15 - 00:30:54:15
And I always see and I always see interviews about

00:30:54:21 - 00:30:57:19
with and about,

00:30:57:19 - 00:30:59:02
Ray Longo

00:30:59:02 - 00:31:01:24
and he seems like he's like a salt of the earth guy

00:31:01:24 - 00:31:05:06
and everyone that that all the fighters say, yeah, it's a family.

00:31:05:06 - 00:31:06:00
It's not just a team.

00:31:06:00 - 00:31:09:10
Like we're people say it, but but we live it.

00:31:11:14 - 00:31:13:11
Yeah, 100%, man.

00:31:13:11 - 00:31:15:06
And and that's how it is.

00:31:15:06 - 00:31:19:00
You know, there's, you know, Longo's Sara Longo team.

00:31:19:15 - 00:31:22:15
You know, when you when you're with us, in training with us

00:31:22:16 - 00:31:24:17
and, you know, there's a lot of people that come

00:31:24:17 - 00:31:27:18
and they train for like a couple weeks and you never see them again.

00:31:27:18 - 00:31:31:18
But, you know, you'll see the guys day in and day out,

00:31:31:18 - 00:31:34:03
you bleed together, you work hard together, and,

00:31:34:03 - 00:31:37:03
you pick each other up when we're down, and.

00:31:37:12 - 00:31:39:04
And you make sure that you,

00:31:39:04 - 00:31:42:04
you know, you buster balls when they're when they're too high.

00:31:42:09 - 00:31:45:14
So it's it's, it's a great team

00:31:45:14 - 00:31:49:16
and it's a great environment and it's, definitely,

00:31:50:03 - 00:31:55:08
you know, produce multiple champions and, you know, more, more champions to come.

00:31:57:07 - 00:31:57:15
Yeah.

00:31:57:15 - 00:31:58:10
Again,

00:31:58:10 - 00:32:02:23
being able to sit by you guys, I call it just a little glimpse of like that.

00:32:02:24 - 00:32:04:03
Your interactions.

00:32:04:03 - 00:32:06:07
And it was just cool.

00:32:06:07 - 00:32:09:01
It's like you just seem like guys that generally like each other's company

00:32:09:01 - 00:32:12:05
and, like, you know, talking about the fight game and hearing actual

00:32:12:05 - 00:32:15:11
active fighters talking about a fight while you're watching it.

00:32:15:11 - 00:32:18:10
It was it really was. It was an amazing experience.

00:32:18:10 - 00:32:23:00
So I, I appreciate all of you being very, very nice. So.

00:32:23:22 - 00:32:24:05
Yeah.

00:32:24:05 - 00:32:27:05
Yeah, it was it was a fun, that was a fun fight night.

00:32:27:12 - 00:32:30:14
Even though the UFC usually gives us better seats,

00:32:30:15 - 00:32:33:10
I was kind of pissed about that.

00:32:33:10 - 00:32:35:08
I don't put that in a complaint box.

00:32:35:08 - 00:32:37:00
I know usually they.

00:32:37:00 - 00:32:40:07
So they always put the A-list fighters, like, right on the floor,

00:32:40:15 - 00:32:42:01
like all the famous fighters.

00:32:42:01 - 00:32:45:06
But then they, they put, like the B like C list.

00:32:45:20 - 00:32:49:20
It's usually right behind the press spot, like press area.

00:32:50:01 - 00:32:52:21
And it's like, eye level to the cage.

00:32:52:21 - 00:32:54:22
So I was like, love going there.

00:32:54:22 - 00:32:56:19
Like going to the fights and sitting there

00:32:56:19 - 00:32:58:18
because the, the best seats in the house.

00:32:58:18 - 00:33:02:22
But I guess for, for that, jersey card, like Trump was there and they,

00:33:02:22 - 00:33:05:24
they needed more seats or something or they gave

00:33:05:24 - 00:33:09:13
they gave those seats to like the TikTok influencers or something.

00:33:11:04 - 00:33:14:05
That I tell that with Trump being there, the,

00:33:14:05 - 00:33:18:07
the security like arch, when you walk in, you're not getting like wanted by,

00:33:18:07 - 00:33:22:08
like the people that work at the fringes, they're getting wounded by like like,

00:33:23:12 - 00:33:24:22
Secret Service.

00:33:24:22 - 00:33:26:10
Like it was.

00:33:26:10 - 00:33:27:07
And people.

00:33:27:07 - 00:33:28:13
And it's just crazy.

00:33:28:13 - 00:33:31:03
I see people, like, talk like not talking shit to the Secret Service

00:33:31:03 - 00:33:34:21
people, but, like, give, like, they're they're there for your protection,

00:33:35:06 - 00:33:37:06
and they're giving me a hard time, like having to empty your pockets

00:33:37:06 - 00:33:40:03
out, getting pissed off, like, wouldn't you rather feel safe like that?

00:33:40:03 - 00:33:40:21
Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:40:21 - 00:33:41:24
It just it blew my mind.

00:33:41:24 - 00:33:44:24
But crazy, crazy atmosphere.

00:33:45:04 - 00:33:46:06
Crazy atmosphere.

00:33:46:06 - 00:33:48:06
And you got to sit with a celebrity, too.

00:33:48:06 - 00:33:49:15
I mean, yes, I did.

00:33:49:15 - 00:33:52:19
I mean, I hope you weren't bugging them out like fucking, you know, like, you know,

00:33:53:21 - 00:33:56:14
you know, you you're super cool.

00:33:56:14 - 00:34:00:05
Like, I didn't I didn't even know you were deep in the NBA game.

00:34:00:12 - 00:34:02:15
Thanks, man, I appreciate it.

00:34:02:15 - 00:34:05:17
Listen, I, it was just a really fun night, so.

00:34:06:01 - 00:34:07:05
Good.

00:34:07:05 - 00:34:11:11
Yeah, I, I did a little dive on on your IG,

00:34:11:11 - 00:34:15:01
and I saw something that I, I really like.

00:34:15:01 - 00:34:18:00
It was, some gummies.

00:34:18:00 - 00:34:20:16
Oh, yeah, I saw some THC.

00:34:20:16 - 00:34:23:14
Yes. Nice. Tell me, tell me about it.

00:34:23:14 - 00:34:26:00
I'm, I'm a user, I guess.

00:34:26:00 - 00:34:29:00
I say hi, my name is Archie.

00:34:29:09 - 00:34:30:12
And now.

00:34:30:12 - 00:34:30:22
Oh, good.

00:34:30:22 - 00:34:32:01
Good old cannabis.

00:34:32:01 - 00:34:34:09
Yeah. Cannabis has helped me out a lot.

00:34:34:09 - 00:34:39:10
What has it actually, like, I just got home.

00:34:39:10 - 00:34:42:05
I got home from training, and I just ate a gummy myself, so.

00:34:42:05 - 00:34:43:08
Good matter.

00:34:43:08 - 00:34:45:17
Gummy. And, you know, I'm going to.

00:34:45:17 - 00:34:48:18
After this chat with you guys, I'm going to go and,

00:34:48:18 - 00:34:52:03
and clock out and have a nice sleep.

00:34:52:11 - 00:34:52:18
Yeah.

00:34:52:18 - 00:34:55:19
But, yeah, you know, I, I, I don't like to.

00:34:55:22 - 00:34:57:01
I don't drink alcohol.

00:34:57:01 - 00:35:03:00
I don't do nothing, but I definitely like, like the cannabis and,

00:35:04:01 - 00:35:04:18
you know, I try,

00:35:04:18 - 00:35:08:10
I try not, I'm trying not to smoke as much cause I'm trying to get in shape.

00:35:08:16 - 00:35:11:13
Yeah, but, the gummies are my favorite.

00:35:11:13 - 00:35:12:23
And then,

00:35:12:23 - 00:35:15:05
they also one of my sponsors.

00:35:15:05 - 00:35:16:00
Pharmacann.

00:35:16:00 - 00:35:20:05
And they they have a bunch of, different products and stuff.

00:35:20:05 - 00:35:22:13
Like the matter gummies are my favorite.

00:35:22:13 - 00:35:24:01
And then they have a vape.

00:35:24:01 - 00:35:27:01
The magnitude vape is, is awesome.

00:35:27:06 - 00:35:32:18
But then they have this, this powder, it's, called fusion fusion powder.

00:35:33:04 - 00:35:35:19
And you can put and they have little packets,

00:35:35:19 - 00:35:38:22
and you just pour the powder into any drink,

00:35:38:22 - 00:35:42:13
and it makes it like a ten milligram, like drink.

00:35:42:19 - 00:35:44:24
Oh. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:44:24 - 00:35:50:02
And I like, like, I just poured in my water and I called my my weed water.

00:35:51:13 - 00:35:54:23
And I put it right into, like, my my shaker.

00:35:55:20 - 00:35:58:16
Yeah. I just drink some weed water.

00:35:58:16 - 00:36:02:15
And then I'm, I look at, I'm looking at things a little bit differently.

00:36:02:15 - 00:36:06:11
I'm. I'm appreciating, life a lot more.

00:36:06:20 - 00:36:11:18
And, I mean, I like to think that I'm, a more enjoyable,

00:36:11:22 - 00:36:15:21
mellow person, but, my wife might tell you different, but,

00:36:17:14 - 00:36:20:11
Oh, if I had that, I would be like, oh,

00:36:20:11 - 00:36:23:11
this is why they call this the the roofie.

00:36:25:19 - 00:36:25:24
Right.

00:36:25:24 - 00:36:28:12
You just drink bong water. Yeah.

00:36:28:12 - 00:36:29:00
Nice.

00:36:29:00 - 00:36:32:06
So my, my my poison is like I always.

00:36:32:24 - 00:36:33:10
Yeah.

00:36:33:10 - 00:36:37:05
Smoking I like smoking because it's like the quick, the quick.

00:36:37:05 - 00:36:37:24
Right.

00:36:37:24 - 00:36:40:20
But like with gummies I'll take one and I'll,

00:36:40:20 - 00:36:44:02
and I'll say to myself, you know, I don't understand.

00:36:44:13 - 00:36:47:17
Like when, like one day it will kick in and then the next day

00:36:47:17 - 00:36:49:22
it'll kick in a little later and then also I'm like,

00:36:52:21 - 00:36:53:11
well, it's

00:36:53:11 - 00:36:57:07
that's because you're, you probably doing different kinds of gummies.

00:36:57:16 - 00:37:00:09
That's why I like, try, try the matter.

00:37:00:09 - 00:37:04:15
Well, matter gummies and the they're always like, you know,

00:37:04:16 - 00:37:08:08
one of them is ten milligrams, and they're all they're always perfect.

00:37:08:08 - 00:37:10:22
And, you know, I always know, like, one of them

00:37:10:22 - 00:37:14:01
ten milligrams, you know, I'm not, like, dummy high.

00:37:14:02 - 00:37:16:21
I'm just I'm I'm perfect.

00:37:16:21 - 00:37:17:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:17:24 - 00:37:19:23
Where do they sell those?

00:37:19:23 - 00:37:21:13
Like, we're in Jersey.

00:37:21:13 - 00:37:22:24
Like, how would I get those?

00:37:22:24 - 00:37:25:12
They have them at a bunch of dispensaries.

00:37:25:12 - 00:37:30:07
Look, yeah, I think you might be able to find them on my Instagram.

00:37:30:07 - 00:37:32:23
Some some. Okay. All right.

00:37:32:23 - 00:37:33:04
Yeah.

00:37:33:04 - 00:37:36:11
Rocky likes to play a game with, on the podcast called dummy on a gummy.

00:37:38:01 - 00:37:39:10
So he's a gummy?

00:37:39:10 - 00:37:41:14
I ask him, fifth grade level question.

00:37:41:14 - 00:37:43:22
Yeah.

00:37:43:22 - 00:37:46:00
So you need to get gummy then, dummy.

00:37:46:00 - 00:37:48:08
Yeah, that's that.

00:37:48:08 - 00:37:51:08
Before we let you go,

00:37:51:08 - 00:37:53:08
what's the go to flex being RC?

00:37:53:08 - 00:37:56:08
Obviously, I think we're all, of Italian descent.

00:37:57:04 - 00:37:58:21
What's the best Italian play?

00:37:58:21 - 00:38:01:18
What's your go to Italian place out on Long Island?

00:38:01:18 - 00:38:04:09
Yeah, I'm going to say Nelly's all day.

00:38:04:09 - 00:38:07:09
Yeah. So Nelly's in Rockville Center.

00:38:07:12 - 00:38:10:02
I'm getting, I'm getting.

00:38:10:02 - 00:38:12:11
Well, you know, if I'm going to sit down here,

00:38:12:11 - 00:38:16:12
I'm getting the chicken parm again, the chicken parm all day, and then,

00:38:16:12 - 00:38:20:00
nice vodka, grandma pie, maybe as an appetizer.

00:38:20:08 - 00:38:21:04
There you go.

00:38:21:04 - 00:38:25:00
Bring bring the, and then, down some chicken parm.

00:38:25:14 - 00:38:27:05
Now I'm a happy guy, but yeah.

00:38:27:05 - 00:38:28:12
So now he's is the best

00:38:29:21 - 00:38:30:05
we got.

00:38:30:05 - 00:38:31:05
All right, check it out.

00:38:31:05 - 00:38:32:17
That's gonna to be one of our stops.

00:38:32:17 - 00:38:34:23
Let me know. Miss you guys.

00:38:34:23 - 00:38:35:13
Definitely.

00:38:35:13 - 00:38:39:12
Dude, thank you so much for taking the time and, and talking to us.

00:38:39:20 - 00:38:42:02
We'd love to have you back on once you.

00:38:42:02 - 00:38:45:02
When you get closer to November, fight or whatever,

00:38:45:15 - 00:38:47:04
whatever you want to talk about.

00:38:47:04 - 00:38:49:09
Where can everybody find you?

00:38:49:09 - 00:38:50:24
Online?

00:38:50:24 - 00:38:52:23
Yeah. Find me steamroll.

00:38:52:23 - 00:38:56:24
I may, Instagram

00:38:56:24 - 00:39:00:02
and and I'll Twitter and.

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Yeah, definitely.

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And, and then check out my YouTube, big body steam.

00:39:06:12 - 00:39:07:12
Big body steam.

00:39:07:12 - 00:39:12:16
I'm doing, fight vlogs and, trying to get the YouTube going again.

00:39:13:00 - 00:39:14:10
Good. And, and.

00:39:14:10 - 00:39:18:04
Yeah, man, we should have fight news, you know, as soon enough.

00:39:18:21 - 00:39:23:17
And, as soon as I get fight news, hit me up and we'll talk again.

00:39:23:17 - 00:39:25:15
You know, that's awesome.

00:39:25:15 - 00:39:26:02
Yeah.

00:39:26:02 - 00:39:30:06
Because, you know, once right now, I'm still kind of, right

00:39:30:06 - 00:39:33:18
now, I'm still, you know, coaching and and training.

00:39:33:18 - 00:39:34:16
You know, I'm in shape.

00:39:34:16 - 00:39:36:19
I'm I'm I'm still sparring right now.

00:39:36:19 - 00:39:39:19
Everybody who's got fights coming up, I'm always,

00:39:39:21 - 00:39:42:21
you know, I'm always helping them and sparring them.

00:39:42:22 - 00:39:47:11
And, kind of just setting up, figuring out my schedule

00:39:47:23 - 00:39:52:16
to, to really get, like, a fight camp going, and, it's it's going to be soon.

00:39:52:16 - 00:39:54:00
I'm, I'm I'm ready.

00:39:54:00 - 00:39:58:00
I'm ready to get in the fight camp, but, so all in good time.

00:39:58:21 - 00:40:01:09
Well, we're ready to see you back in the cage.

00:40:01:09 - 00:40:03:07
Thank you so much for taking the time.

00:40:03:07 - 00:40:04:19
We really appreciate it.

00:40:04:19 - 00:40:06:22
Yeah. Appreciate you guys. We'll be in touch.

00:40:06:22 - 00:40:07:12
Thanks, Matt.

00:40:07:12 - 00:40:10:00
Good luck. Matt. The steam go live for Vola.

00:40:10:00 - 00:40:12:21
Thank you so much. Later, fellas. We got.

00:40:13:24 - 00:40:16:24
Who we?

00:40:17:03 - 00:40:18:17
That was fun.

00:40:18:17 - 00:40:20:12
Yeah, he's a good dude.

00:40:20:12 - 00:40:23:11
That's that's really cool that you got to sit next to him, bro.

00:40:23:11 - 00:40:24:06
Yeah, watching.

00:40:24:06 - 00:40:25:02
Watching him.

00:40:25:02 - 00:40:28:02
The teammate. Not, Dennis.

00:40:28:07 - 00:40:30:07
They just talking about the fights and hearing

00:40:30:07 - 00:40:33:07
from a fighter's respect from an active fighter's perspective, you know?

00:40:33:11 - 00:40:34:13
And, like, just nice enough.

00:40:34:13 - 00:40:36:00
His nephew didn't have to talk to me, like.

00:40:36:00 - 00:40:39:00
But we were just shooting this shit about the fights and, like, what in mano?

00:40:39:11 - 00:40:40:22
Yeah. He's fucking.

00:40:40:22 - 00:40:43:01
It's a goddamn the UFC giving me these tickets.

00:40:43:01 - 00:40:44:19
This is this is Jurgen.

00:40:44:19 - 00:40:47:19
Definitely like, his boy was like,

00:40:47:22 - 00:40:50:15
my man keeps looking at you over there.

00:40:50:15 - 00:40:52:12
Don't worry about he doesn't want to fight you guys.

00:40:52:12 - 00:40:53:16
I'm looking at him.

00:40:53:16 - 00:40:55:10
He's not going to want to fight you.

00:40:55:10 - 00:40:57:00
He, Yeah, he's out of here.

00:40:57:00 - 00:40:59:19
Me losing my bets on FanDuel all night long.

00:40:59:19 - 00:41:02:13
You know, it's, his dad's a good dude.

00:41:02:13 - 00:41:03:11
His dad was with them,

00:41:04:14 - 00:41:06:04
very, very good, dude.

00:41:06:04 - 00:41:10:09
But, yeah, you know, he just.

00:41:10:17 - 00:41:13:13
I have, as you know,

00:41:13:13 - 00:41:15:06
we have the utmost respect.

00:41:15:06 - 00:41:18:23
And I think first and foremost, for mixed martial artist, I mean, it is.

00:41:18:23 - 00:41:20:01
It's a team sport.

00:41:20:01 - 00:41:22:22
Yes, but when you go in there, you're by yourself.

00:41:22:22 - 00:41:23:04
Oh, yeah.

00:41:23:04 - 00:41:25:20
You going in there? You're stepping foot in there too.

00:41:25:20 - 00:41:30:08
And someone's essentially trying to separate you from consciousness.

00:41:32:01 - 00:41:35:01
And you would think it's it's you know, it.

00:41:35:04 - 00:41:38:09
Well, it's kind of like what we experience in, in music, right?

00:41:38:09 - 00:41:40:03
The kind of music you play, like heavy metal or whatever.

00:41:40:03 - 00:41:44:02
Have you like, people think it's like, these people are like, not good people.

00:41:44:02 - 00:41:44:14
Listen, that.

00:41:44:14 - 00:41:46:08
But like, most of the people you meet are like sweethearts.

00:41:46:08 - 00:41:48:10
And he's like, he's like an example of that.

00:41:48:10 - 00:41:52:18
We're like, one of the nicest guys you'll meet, but he will kill you if he has.

00:41:54:09 - 00:41:55:18
Is that the craziest thing?

00:41:55:18 - 00:41:56:16
Yeah.

00:41:56:16 - 00:42:01:08
A dude that I talked to the other day, he's like, oh, I saw your podcast.

00:42:01:08 - 00:42:02:16
So you have a lot of fighters on there.

00:42:02:16 - 00:42:05:16
I said, man, oh man, it's funny.

00:42:06:06 - 00:42:09:18
UFC, MMA in general, fighters

00:42:09:18 - 00:42:12:22
are just some of the nicest guests we've had.

00:42:13:00 - 00:42:16:22
Yeah, like, musicians are cool as fuck because, you know, into music.

00:42:16:22 - 00:42:20:17
But some of them, you know, where you're like, oh yeah, this,

00:42:21:00 - 00:42:23:11
this interview is going to be a good time.

00:42:23:11 - 00:42:28:03
But like, it may dudes are just they're just I think they know.

00:42:28:03 - 00:42:31:09
They know that they could separate someone's head off someone's shoulders.

00:42:31:09 - 00:42:32:19
Yeah. Any given point.

00:42:32:19 - 00:42:34:14
Yeah. Why not be nice?

00:42:34:14 - 00:42:35:21
Yeah. Like, you know what?

00:42:35:21 - 00:42:37:13
I'm going to I'm going to use my power for good,

00:42:38:22 - 00:42:42:19
but, well, up

00:42:44:19 - 00:42:47:01
with that being said,

00:42:47:01 - 00:42:50:10
what do you have to say to the people?

00:42:50:16 - 00:42:54:07
If you just heard us talking to our boy Matt, the steam steamroller for Vola,

00:42:54:11 - 00:42:58:11
whether you're listening to country rap or rock n roll, you're slamming down

00:42:58:11 - 00:43:02:20
a jack and Coca-Cola, and you're listening to two guys who make no payola,

00:43:04:00 - 00:43:07:15
and you just listen to not These Two Fucking Guys podcast.

00:43:09:16 - 00:43:11:14
We out?

00:43:11:14 - 00:43:13:04
What what about microphone?

00:43:13:04 - 00:43:16:04
Just fucking change.

00:43:16:07 - 00:43:18:12
Is your mic transitioning?

00:43:18:12 - 00:43:20:09
There we go.

00:43:20:09 - 00:43:22:20
Now this guy,

00:43:22:20 - 00:43:24:16
the mikes are on and you're being funny.

00:43:24:16 - 00:43:26:22
What's the occasion?

00:43:26:22 - 00:43:29:22
The, You gotta cut this, but you froze.

00:43:30:10 - 00:43:33:13
Yeah, actually, he didn't freeze and stuff.

00:43:33:13 - 00:43:35:08
Yeah. Stutter and break.